pussy: how do you like it?

[annahilton]

so me and my girls were having a debate over whether or not guys want a girl to shave her pussy. my one friend is growing hers out cause shes not with her boyfriend anymore (he got her to shave it) and a couple of the girls are rocking the landing strip/ patch of hair look, which i dont really get...
so im wondering, when you put your hand down into a hot girls panties for the first time, you cross your (other) fingers and hope that she is...

poll above i think.

if you have a second let me know. we have a bet going.

thanks. happy pre halloween party weekend

[the-crutch]

i guess i'm old school, i like a little hairy beaver. not Don king in a headlock type stuff, but a nice bush kept in control. landing strips are OK, but i personally hate the total shaved look, maybe thats because if a girl asked me to go smooth, i would say "no way".

[goonarms]

I love when there is a little landing strip because it helps to know your going in the right direction when your fingers are investigating. I like a smooth pussy too, because I'm not big on getting hair in my mouth.

[annahilton]

i am winning so far. landing strip is close though. i dont get that, if you are gonna wax or shave or whatever why not the whole thing? that little strip seems out of place to me. so if you can explain the allure please do...?

[Badfish]

Yeah.. the bald look is hot.. in porn.. but when I'm hookin up for the first time and feel bald pussy.. it makes me feel like I'm with a 12 year old or something and it just kind of ruins it... Not to mention, I had this filipino girlfriend once, who shaved it bald.. the first time I saw her naked, she looked like a kid! I would say a guy wants to know the chick he's about to stick his dick in is actually a woman... so some hair would do nice.. the landing strip does kinda seem pointless.. but its way hot!

[goonarms]

The allure for the landing strip is probably because it is supposed to be hair there so if there isn't its probably a psyhcological head game. Nobody normal likes having sex with 11 year olds.

[dusio22]

Mostly I like pussy, well, in my face or on my cock. I guess if I had to choose, I like it a little more natural. I like to know I with a grown woman.

[kodiak]

Bald pussy is the only pussy in my book!

[annahilton]

im gonna do whatever wins... if bare wins my friend has to wax hers. so vote its gonna close soon. and its so close, how exciting. thank you pussy enthusiasts!

[goonarms]

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So are we going to see a picture of this?? :):D

[annahilton]

i dont think im gonna put a picture of my pussy on the internet, and yes i know i probably shouldnt have posted that then... i was drunk, forgive me. its like drunk dialing only drunk posting... yeah i dont really get it either, im hung over.

[goonarms]

Well, you don't have to take a picture of your puss, but you could just take a picture of what you do! ;) j/k

[annahilton]

haha. as if you wouldnt just turn around and post it... if i wasnt planning on being president someday i would, but i have to protect my future campaign.

[goonarms]

Alright.. Well how about your friend then? ahha j/k.. How many more votes til you tell us what your going to do?

[annahilton]

i think i set the poll for 10 days. it ends on the 4rth. im kinda anxious about it, im glad bush isnt winning.

[goonarms]

So whats the final verdict?

[aesposit]

i gotta go with shaved, it just seems cleaner

[DSF Guest 1]

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you gotta leave a small landing strip right up the middle

[jiggydude321]

dont we get to see the finished product

[goonarms]

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Been asked for before, but didn't get it... But maybe if enough people ask aha :)

[whistle_pig]

I am a fan of any pussy I can get!

[annahilton]

i cant get her to take pics.
i would post fakes but i love you guys too much for that.
sorry
she did shave it though

[2hardblack1]

I am putting my vote in for hair on the pussy. Not a major bush.... neat and trimmed, especially on top. You can trim it close around the lips but keep the triangle on top.

[EZE123]

why'd the poll close, dammit?

I'd like a little landing strip-type thing. Although I'd never fuss about bald.

Ah, who're we kidding - I probably wouldn't fuss about a decent beeve no matter what the hair situation is.

[Randal Graves]

I don't know if I commented here yet or not, but bald is where it's at. No one likes to eat pubes. Of course, chicks have to take care of it. Stubble sucks.

[Snoognz]

Argh the poll is closed, but i'll share shaved! i had a gf once that was bushy, so when she was in the bath one day i asked if i could shave her and she said yes!! it was a very intamite experience, also nerve racking as i didin't want to cut her clit off or something lol.

But the finsihed product was awseome, i went down on her for that little bit longer later that night (then agian i can practically live down there:D )

[ocdude]

i love the feeling of a waxed pussy...i could eat it all day long..

[houdav]

i gotta go with the waxed pussy too...tastes great & less filling

[ssgtam07]

There just has to be some sort of cut down there just to show your paying some attention to the happy place.

[UncleFester]

a nice bush for me.

[effjay]

I wanted to bump this so we could get some answers from our new ladies (cellany, Jo, Panda, Vixen). C'mon girls, let us know what you're workin' with!

[Jules Winfield]

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Good call, jay...

[goonarms]

Hell of a call Jay

[effjay]

I do what I can gentleman, I do what I can. :D

[PANDAmonium]

Well if you must know, I'm bare and soft as a baby's bottom, haha.

[DAS]

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Bullshit, let's see.;)

[effjay]

Is that because you're Asian or by choice Panda? Or does the being Asian aid in the smoooooothocity.

[PANDAmonium]

By choice, there's nothing quite like a freshly shaven pussayyy. Hahaha.

[effjay]

Agreed. The shaven va-jay is the va-jay for meeeeh. Although the landing strip is nice every now and then to mix it up with.

[amylikewhoa]

i couldn't imagine being anything but bare

[Badcat]

I'm a an of bare or very closely trimmed. I love going down on a girl and would start everyday off that way if I could. I just hate pulling pubes out of my teeh after I do it. I trim mine for the same reason why should I expect less in return?

[bexxx]

I like my strip it relaxes me at night to play with it

[Badcat]

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I like the same. I enjoy rubbing my wife's landing strip. and she enjoy's it too.....

Damn I had to correct the spelling like 4 times on this to get it right. Gotta sober up.

[PANDAmonium]

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Bahahaha I'm glad I'm not the only person who comes on the forum when they're drunk.

[Badcat]

Hell yeah I really start having a lot of fun on forums at night when I'm tanked. I'm out of town on a business trip in the LA area and just ended up getting all kinds of tanked tonight. Like a old room mate of mine used to say "tore up from the floor up"

[ms. cellany]

always trimmed, usually with the strip or some variation thereof.

[doubledip]

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Very nice!!!! I'm a fan of strip and bare...basically anyway is a good way!!! Unless it's hard to find...and I keep mine closely shaved for the ladies as well!

[SirLongFoot]

bare or landing strip, but as long as the lips are cleanly shaven. I like to see what I'm getting myself into if you know what I mean.

[effjay]

SOOOOO glad we bumped this. :D

[DSF Guest 1]

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I like pussy wrapped around my cock:D

[tlock]

Bare or landing strip

[scampr]

As long as it's well maintained it can be waxed bare or it can have designs or it can even have a nice bush as long as I'm not diving through some 70s style forest. And ya know I've even enjoyed that before as a change of pace. Piercings are fine sometimes although I like change so piercings get boring too. I pretty much love all pussy, all colors, all styles...but not every girl puts the same amount of effort in down there. They might spend an hour on makeup and hair but their daily pussy routine might be a 5 second scrub and a 1 minute shave every few days. If you want me to treat it with the voracity and diligence it deserves treat it like it's important to you too!!

Did I just rant there? Holy crap sorry. Uh, I likem all.

[ThreeOnAMeathook]

I love it.

[effjay]

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Hahaha, right there with you Shasta. I love any pussy when it envelops the ole' one eyed bastard.

[effjay]

We're waiting to hear from you Jo. . .let's find out if you are rocking some hair down there or you need to borrow BigMac's "merkin".

[jo_dile]

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Effjay you like any pussy you can get. hahahah :)

[jo_dile]

And because you asked. Its clean shaven or landing strip for me. I don't dig pubes. :D

[effjay]

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I will not argue with that fact.

[jo_dile]

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:D you are the man! ;) love it!

[MEGADOUCHE]

i'm not picky, i like it all ways. smooth is cool for so many ways, but burying my face in hairpie is so cool in other ways. i like to to let her grow and then shave and start over.

[JohnWithAnH]

I've gotta say, I love the bush. Doesn't have to be all natural (also fine) but a trimmed bush is sexyyy.

[DSF Guest 10]

I can't believe I didn't see this thread earlier. . . :o

I usually shave mine, but I also like to keep it trim. I agree with becca, and like to play with it when I just trim it (because I am too lazy to shave)

I also HATE using a razor to shave with, [I still can't figure out how to prevent razor burn (can anyone say oW!)] and instead use an electric razor intended to get the hai r off the back of a guy's neck. I got it a walmart around Christmas time for like, 10 bucks. Works like a charm!

[effjay]

Now, that we got answers from Jo, Atomic, Cellany and Panda I think this thread done good :D

[Choppie]

How about "often"

[effjay]

I also like "Free" but who are we getting "reasonably priced" works for me too.

[goonarms]

I don't think Clem has said anything yet so if she hasn't this thread isn't closed yet!

[DSF Guest 2]

above room temperature works for me.


did I say that out loud?

[jo_dile]

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HAHAHAHAHA! Um....yeah you did. :D

[IronMan2008]

I shaved my wife's pussy the other day and that damn cat clawed me!

[admiral]

I am starting to enjoy the comeback of a little hair down there. Not full on monster bush but something that is neatly taken care of and a little bit more than a landing strip. Especially if there is some wrapping around the lips.

[bexxx]

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OHHHH MAN big mac your pic is AWESOME!

[effjay]

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Good point Goon, good point. Clem, let us know what you're working with!

[bexxx]

On my face(if not my own) On my husbands face (if my own)

[effjay]

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BEST ANSWER YET

Becca just BRNSWKD this thread.

[bexxx]

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WOOT!!!!!!!!

[goonarms]

So becca your saying you like it both ways?

[forumlover]

i love the feeling of playing with the hair down there, it just feels so good. when i shave its just not the same.

[bexxx]

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http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb84/Anusate/CapnObvious.gif

[scampr]

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...to Orgasmo, or was that Chodda Boy?

[scampr]

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The members of this forum would be glad to help settle this debate in an even more scientific matter. It's not just how it feels to you when you play (because afterall there are a million ways to play); it's also a matter of aesthetics. On behalf of my fellow Institute members I am offering our services free of charge.
This is a once in a lifetime opportunity. Submit several photos with the best lighting you can find showing natural and shaven and we can help put this question to rest once and for all. Be sure to post a shout out to DSF in atleast one photo of each series.

Yours truly,
the FFI

[onemanrace]

I like a lil bit of a landing strip.
And I like it even more if it's attached to somebody willing to do stuff with me.

[goonarms]

Just made my fantasy that much better becca

[forumlover]

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I'll get right on it ;)

[DSF Guest 1]

I know this isn't the place for pics, so I'll post it as a link...but this is pretty cool...



http://www.toti.externet.hu/public1/nyar639///a03.jpg

[BleacherCreature420]

i like it wrapped around my cock haha

but i guess thats a no brainer.

[DSF Guest 1]

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wow...how origional...

[BleacherCreature420]

sorry i was inpatient and didn't read the any of the other posts....just saw the title and it popped in my head......i give the credit where its due, you beat me to it

plus im stoned and thought it was funny

[ata033]

I like my pussy shaven....not stirred.

[effjay]

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Ooo...Bleacher just got BRNSWKD by Shasta. Does that mean Bleacher just got Shat upon?

[effjay]

BUMP: Because we want to know what Suz, Ashlynn and Nesta are working with downstairs :D

[cdb8457]

I am more of a landing strip kind of guy. I like a little but not alot.

[effjay]

Still waiting to hear from Suz and Nesta :D

[beastley]

u gave up on ashlyn?

[Carlos Spicy Wiener]

shaved, all the way bare! mmmm makes my mouth water.

[Ashlyn]

Lol i was given up on? what? :D

[nestanesta]

bare

i used to be on the swim team in high school and it kind of gave me a complex with body hair

[effjay]

There was no intentional forgetting of Ashlynn, I swear! You know the mind of a stoner Heat, we forget stuff. So Ashlynn. . .what are you working with downstairs?

[beastley]

1 out of 3, not bad.

[Ashlyn]

bare, i get weirded out with hair.
landing strip can be nice, but like i said, hair iffs me out.

[Tablefor5]

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pics or it didn't happen!!!

[summerskin]

im with ashlyn and nesta.

im shaved. all the time.

body hair especially down there grosses me out.

[Tablefor5]

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with that statement you will fit right in here...welcome

[Trips]

preferably on a woman. Just saying

[nitro_girl]

hmm i dont know how all you girls shave down there, waxing is the only way to go for me! im lucky one of my mates is a beauty therapist so i get everything done free :)

im a fan of either brazillian or hollywood (thats the landing strip)

[beastley]

my gf doesnt want to shave because she claims itll give her ingrown hairs and ruin her shit down there, so she waxes...but unluckily, no beauty therapist friend

[summerskin]

i guess i was lucky ive never really had ingrown hairs or razor burn for that matter.

[Mr Handlebars]

For all you guys begging to see a naked pussy .......
http://petermavrik.smugmug.com/photos/291905560_fe5cq-S.jpg

[Carlos Spicy Wiener]

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Missing out man. She seem paranoid. I love a woman who shave, nothing hotter!

[Tablefor5]

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waxing is just as smooth!

[Mr Handlebars]

I, personally. don't like it clean shaven/wax only because of appearance sake. Give me a nice manicured pubs or a landing strip that accents her Mons pubis. When I see a naked pussy on some women (not all), I feel like I'm with a child and that makes me very uncomfortable. Up close, in your face, you know the difference, but from afar, especially if they are petite and small busted, it just feels so wrong, that I can't enjoy the intimacy.

After I've been with someone for a time, like my ex-gf, then I don't mind. I will always, though, prefer a road map for my tongue. http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/tongue/tongue0013.gif (http://www.mysmiley.net/freesmiley.php?smiley=tongue/tongue0013.gif)

[nestanesta]

i alwwwayyss wax

on my own too my oldest sister is a beautician and taught me

[beastley]

to answer the poll question, i like it

[tokerjoe]

i like it two at a time..

[SirLongFoot]

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So your sister showed you how to wax your pubes? NICE :D

[nestanesta]

haha i was asking for that

no she taught me the technique

[Tablefor5]

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I'd like to see that how to video!!!!

[Vexed Looter]

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Is that a common thing with swim teams? Bare? :eek:

[effjay]

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From my experience with swim team chicks, yes, it is a common thing :D

[nestanesta]

yeah it supposedly helps with 'aerodynamics' or i guess whatever the equivalence is for water

my friend used to shave basically her whole body

i never went that extreme

[Carlos Spicy Wiener]

I like mine wet and preferably on a woman......:D

[Goat Gosselin]

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that and early and often

[Mr Handlebars]

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So what you are saying is that if a hot guy has a pussy and just got out of the shower, you will consider it?? :rolleyes:

[davidhot]

Usually I like complete shave pussy, unless the girl is a natural redhead, in that case I love a nice red bush kept in control :rolleyes:

[Trips]

The same way my pops got my mom. By force.

[Captain Obvious]

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Trannies aren't my thing. No matter how hot his pussy is...

[Never seeN]

here's my 2 cents :

i don't like to floss and eat at the same time so i'll say shaved clean

[Chesty LaRue]

i love my pussy shaved.....but i kinda forget too a lot so i usually just keep it pretty trimmed. I'm working on it a lot more though and need to just go shave it......but I'm a big wimp and don't really like the idea of wax by my cooter....:p

[pympton]

I don't care how a woman is shaved as long as she is shaved... By that I mean she keeps it under control. I don't mind a landing strip, completely bare, or even "undone" as long as I'm not picking my teeth after I'm done.

The woman has to know how to work it. Plain and simple

[serafina]

I shave, makes me feel hotter. I keep a nice little landing strip. I don't have thick hair down there so if I don't shave, I think it looks weird. I don't grow a cute bush, it just looks like a bald man desperately trying to hang on to the few hairs he has left. Hypothetically, if I was going to eat a girl out, I'd prefer if she shaved a little.

[velvet_skin]

landing strip stays!i have some bad memories with a mean nurse who shaved over my fresh shave..like cant u fucking see there's no hair?! gave me a hell of a rash :(
and i prefer seeing pussy with landing strips..dunno, they have more personality...

[trojanwoman]

i always keep it shaved. im not even a fan of the landing strip either cuz it just looks weird to me. only do it by special request :p

[georgetenfour]

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... personality, yes!! like imagine a beatnick without a goatee. they'd get run right out of their coffee shop.

[blustinger]

No one likes hair in their salad......

[jamandjelly]

I'd rather fully shaved because I love to lick pussy, but I can settle for a little hair. If it's a bush I just won't go down there. Sorry ladies

[slvr]

Shaven and clean for me ladies thanks.

[thefinest]

i dont care personally

[velvet_skin]

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at all?!
then here u go hon
http://www.bknf.com/images/hairy_closeup.jpg
problem is, if a woman takes no care of her down there, she probably doesn't take care of herself at all. *notice fingernails dirt ;)

[georgetenfour]

this appears to be obscured by a flimsy undergarment, but it is enough to show the best way.

http://www.andy-valentino.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/06.jpg

[velvet_skin]

lol..or a little variation for valentines day mebbe :D

http://i.imagepost.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/74.jpg

[georgetenfour]

fapping brb in ten.

[velvet_skin]

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ha ha. i'm so telling ur wife!

[georgetenfour]

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she'll probably send you a card and flowers, i howled at her last night and she made sure to change into an extra heavy nighty and wrap herself into a cocoon.

oh, she reads this too!! :D

[velvet_skin]

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ha ha. can i play with ur wife's pussy when ur not around? :D

[georgetenfour]

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if you can get her to un-cocoon, please go right ahead! just do me a favor and ask her to give me a shot after.

[velvet_skin]

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ha ha...i'm not pimping her for u.
no..u work for ur share.

[georgetenfour]

uh oh! i think i feel a bit of the jealous coming on... maybe i'm not secure enough to let her play with you? :D

[velvet_skin]

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i'll give her back..promise!
i'm just bi-curious...

[Nigel_Stompbottom]

http://kabl.am/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/_image_content.jpg

I <3 hair.
Not the crazy hair that you all posted before but this kind of hair.
The kind that lets you know you are with a women and not a god damned barbie girl.
The kind that hides the obscenely big clitoral hood which resembles a penis.
The kind that hides the exaggerated pussy lips.
I guess the point I am trying to get is that it is not always a good thing to give a guy a clear eye view of your labia.
And even if you have a perfect lookout going on, at least make me feel like I am with an actual woman. Maybe its me being generational and wanting to see bush, but that is how I love it.

[velvet_skin]

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this is a poll...not a "come and be judged and have fingers pointed at" thread.
but i hear cat grass works wonders for hairballs. :)

i'm only being mean cause all the things you don't like looking at is what makes a fucking pussy...and the mean labia keeps u from staring into a pink sinkhole.

[Nigel_Stompbottom]

And I think you misunderstood me, the hair is also a part of the pussy. Without it, its like a cheeseburger sans cheese. A taco without lettuce. It can have extra meat, but if you dont have the full effort into it, then is it really a cheeseburger? Or is it just a plain burger acting like a cheeseburger?

[georgetenfour]

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nah, you really came across as sounding afraid of vaginas.

[Nigel_Stompbottom]

Thanks for chiming in.

You are right tho. I am scurred of the whole "plumbing" system down there.

[georgetenfour]

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dude.. i've done some bad photoshops in my day that i'm not proud of, but you made a cheeseburger metaphor.

[Nigel_Stompbottom]

Guess I should have thought Arbys instead?

[georgetenfour]

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YES!!! <3

[Nigel_Stompbottom]

I dont like laughing at my own jokes but when I said that, I kinda chuckled a bit to myself.

In any event, I am not scared of the vagina. I just want to be with an actual woman. And in my opinion, a real woman is someone that is growing hair down there. The example I put forth to you guys was a total example of something that intrigues me. She is an absolute wholesome beauty to me.

I can't explain myself adequately enough, but all I will say is that I miss things like this:

http://www.playboy.com/girls/hotmodels/features/waxing-nostalgic/images/gal/1972-linda-summers_s.jpg

http://www.playboy.com/girls/hotmodels/features/waxing-nostalgic/images/gal/1997-kelly-monaco_s.jpg

and not the whole barbie look. And don't fault me on the Playboy bumps, because thats pretty much what everyone takes their lessons of what is a good looking girl. To rant on another thing, have you noticed how many college girls are rocking the fake tits?

To quote Chappelle, "you all forgot how beautiful you are".

[velvet_skin]

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oh..i'm one of those people who don't eat burgers because they don't like how the cows are being handled :)
and yes, it's a metaphor.
and lemme ask u..how much do u like eating cheeseburger?

edit: oh..i've missed on most of the replies...damn u broken heater!

[Nigel_Stompbottom]

I love eating cheeseburger.
And you may quote me on that.

[velvet_skin]

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ha ha..omg this cheeseburger metaphor works like a charm.
so u like eating the burger but don't care what it's made from, right? :D

[Nigel_Stompbottom]

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What are you getting at?

[velvet_skin]

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well... fuck dammit!
how can u enjoy the different textures with all the hair in the way?
it might as well be whatever "burger" if it has the same sauce on it. :rolleyes:

[Nigel_Stompbottom]

Have you eaten "burger"?
Regardless of texture all "burgers" are not the same.
I just prefer a different kind of "burger" and am not scared of the other.

[velvet_skin]

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no..i have never eaten PUSSY...
but i had furry BALLS in my mouth...and the PUBES numb my tongue, they get stuck in the teeth, etc.
it's ok to call things by their names... this isn't kindergarden :)

[nachos1345]

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You said balls.

[Nigel_Stompbottom]

I was just continuing a trend of using codenames haha.

It is going to be always different strokes for different folks (cliche, ah thank you) in this argument.

[velvet_skin]

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yea..they're quite fascinating.

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come on..say it!
"i like eating pussy and licking the clit and munching on the labia" :)

[Nigel_Stompbottom]

I find it fascinating to send my tongue down a birthing canal of a woman.
She may not like it but damn is it fun.

[velvet_skin]

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ha ha..that's cheating. there's no hair inside (that i know of)! :p
birthing canal?!
VAGINA
i bet you only refer to genitals with pet names.
i dunno why i still pick on u..u sound like a mature man... mebbe it's time to join the 21st century.
i think it's some of my personal baggage interfering. if my parents gave me a proper sex talk, meaning if they would be more open about it, it would have spared me and them a lot of trouble. them less frustrated and me less obsessed :D

[surfmagik15]

I pretty much like them all, except for the 70's porno bush, that can get to be a mess

[Goat Gosselin]

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i would not care if Kelly Monaco had a Don King bush down there with dreadlocks also around the edges, she is so hot i would never come up for air

[McHookerino]

I've gone down on both, and I guess it depends on my mood..

If I'm fucking hammered I could care less but when sober I get pissed picking hair out of my teeth, unless your Lucy Pinder then I would eat the hair off her puss no questions asked

[garciahunter]

I am a bush guy for sure BUT not the coming out of the sides i'ver never seen a razor ever bush. i like hair that is maintained. But then again i like the box to be changed up as much as possible. You know like hair today bare tomorrow. Or maybe my initials shaved in the top,i'm open.

[joker]

You get a choice ?? ;)

[Nigel_Stompbottom]

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How british are you?

And yes, theres no hair inside the canal, but rubbing my nose face deep into a bush at least lets me know that I am with an actual woman.

I would totally join the 21st century if every girl wouldnt apparently join the 60's barbie girl look. Sure dye your hair to platinum, shave your crotch, and get some implants... thats how you get a job. Good job you. Heres your bullshit award for being a role model towards misguided teenage girls with a hearty reinforcement towards the fact of body empowerment over getting a degree. Way to continue the cycle over and over.

[velvet_skin]

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lol... sir... srsly http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/velvet_skin/tongue12.gif
you're really bringing the wrong arguments to the table.
i don't see how grooming urself has anything to do with being less of a woman.
should i go buy some knee long knickers?!
will you get a hardon if i accidentally show my ankles?
if i stop shaving my pusseh, i make a statement of some sort?!

no..this is to retarded to even continue.

[georgetenfour]

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i think you mean your god-given bearded clam attached to the baby waterslide.

[velvet_skin]

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rofl... :D
i didn't even wanna go there... but that's an awesome picture :D

[georgetenfour]

ALMOST like this. hack job, srry lol!!
http://content.imagesocket.com/images/beardedclambabywaterslideeb9.jpg (http://imagesocket.com/view/beardedclambabywaterslideeb9.jpg)

[beautifulest]

I feel dirty unless it's clean...especially around that monthly time...

[forumlover]

no doubt bare is better for the puss if youre a girl, but the regrowth and the maintance are such a pain.

my mans about to see a hairy cooch for the first time soon, im nervous as hell. hes never seen it like htat

[serafina]

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Why has he never seen your cooch hair before? You maintain it that well? My hat is off to you.

[Carlos Spicy Wiener]

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man i remember in high school back in the early 90's and the girl back then didn't shave to much. I remember seeing a lot of full bush back then til my senior year when I met this cute Mormon chick who I talked into a few hours alone and actually was surprised she was clean shaven and after that I've loved it ever since.

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fixed that for ya forumlover :p

[MillyMc]

Im just scared that at some point the trend is going to go in the opposite direction (like almost everything in chick fashion) and all the girls are gonna let the bush grow out for a couple of years.

I was never a fan of the landing strip or weird shirt being shaved in there. My girl keeps it shaved or very trimmed and thats perfect for me.

[king1111]

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You're worried we're going the way of high tops and leg warmers? I understand the fear. It's an appropriate fear...

I'm happy with well-trimmed. I don't need shaven or waxed or whatever... just keep it clean. That's all I ask.

[jchutch2]

I loved shaved. Really really love it. But...if there's some hair, I don't care as long as it's only up top. I don't want any down on the lips. But, if I have my drothers, my woman would have no hair below the eyebrows.

[defbug]

I will lick her pussy first before putting my dick in afterwards splatter my cum all over her pussy so she can rub them.

[el_victorino]

I hate to bump a three year old thread, but I guess this goes here as well as anywhere else.

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Carrie Bradshaw, Hugh Hefner, and Barbie have all helped construct a new generation's ideal woman, who is athletic, alluring, ... and waxed.



Meet Sophia Pinto: the 21st century's standard-issue, all-American perfect 10.

The 5-foot-5 Minnesota native -- a sly, funny, 22-year-old natural blonde who spends every summer bikini-clad on the shores of Lake Minnetonka -- works out five days a week. Her slim waist and megawatt smile hearken back to the polyvinyl glamour of the original Barbie doll.

In fact, if Mattel were to redesign Barbie based on the new millennium's ideal woman, she would likely resemble Pinto. Healthy, athletic, alluring, and smart (Pinto will graduate early this month from Northwestern University), she's both a role model and a sex symbol.

And if you were to undress Pinto, you'd find she embodies yet another trademark characteristic of the plastic glamour girl-turned-careerwoman: Like Barbie, Pinto has no pubic hair.

Jodi Staiman, an esthetician, administers between five and 10 Brazilian waxes per week (and even more in the summertime and just before Halloween).Every four to five weeks, the East Asian Studies major undergoes a cosmetic procedure known as a Brazilian wax. An esthetician pours wax heated to 140° F (roughly the temperature of a steak fresh off the grill) onto her labia and spreads it like butter on bread. Half a minute later, she swiftly peels away the hardened wax -- and with it, a full crop of pubic hair, freshly ripped from the follicles.

If you're squeamishly wondering how much the college senior gets paid for submitting to these weird acts of perverse, pornographic violence, brace yourself for the truly agonizing part: It's actually Pinto who shells out the cash, paying her regular waxer, Anna, more than $65 every time. But it beats the ingrown hairs and razor bumps that come from shaving, she says.

Sound excruciating? Sure is, says Pinto, who pops two Advil before each appointment. But grooming habits like hers hardly raise an eyebrow among the under-30 set. Today, it's all but commonplace for women to go to extreme measures to get bald, pre-pubescent nether regions: Indiana University researchers Debby Herbenick and Vanessa Schick found in a recent study that nearly 60 percent of American women between 18 and 24 are sometimes or always completely bare down there, while almost half of women in the U.S. between 25 and 29 reported similar habits. Herbenick's numbers show a clear-cut trend: More women lack pubic hair than ever before.

What's happening to America's vaginas? Is pubic hair going extinct?

In a word, no. But it's on the fast track to the endangered species list, and its chief predators include the porn industry, smaller bathing suits and lingerie bottoms, and the Kardashian sisters (case in point: Kim once famously proclaimed that women "shouldn't have hair anywhere but their heads").

Pubic hair is, however, evolving. Once upon a time, all vulvas were coated in a protective layer of coarse, woolly tresses. Hard to believe, right? It's kind of like the revelation that horses once had toes, or that the Ford Mustang once had tailfins. But like any evolving species, the vulva has morphed into something sleeker, starker, and altogether more modern. Today, it is smooth, baby-soft, and hairless.

A BRIEF HISTORY OF THE HAIR DOWN THERE

The most staggering aspect of the bald-vulva phenomenon is just how quickly women (and men) have embraced it.

Less than two decades ago, the idea of "taking it all off" seemed painful, unnecessary, and even vaguely fetishistic; As recently as 1996, one harrowing, particularly memorable vignette from Eve Ensler's groundbreaking play The Vagina Monologues effectively turned the idea of removing pubic hair at the request of a sexual partner into something cringe-worthy and perverted. Trimming away a few strays during swimsuit season was one thing, but removing all the hair from one's genitals, effectively turning back the clock on puberty? Traumatizing. Selfish. Inhumane, even.

Or not. Enter the seven Padilha sisters, immigrants from Brazil. In 1987, Jocely, Jonice, Janea, Joyce, Jussara, Juracy, and Judseia Padilha opened the appropriately named J. Sisters salon in Midtown Manhattan, where they began offering what they had dubbed the "Brazilian wax." Years before, a woman in a thong swimsuit with an ungroomed bikini line had strolled by Janea Padilha as she lay on the beach. Why not just wax the full bikini line, she wondered. The peculiar practice would go on to change the world of female genitalia as we know it -- but not for another decade or so. Instead, it would remain weird, taboo, and rarely administered for another 13 years.

Then, in 2000, one groundbreaking episode of Sex And The City made the Manolo Blahnik demographic sit up and take notice: Heroine Carrie Bradshaw found a new swagger in her step after waxing it off. And once Carrie was bare down there ... well, remember when the Sex And The City girls ate cupcakes? Let's put it this way: There's now a cupcake bakery on every other corner in upper Manhattan. Finally, the phenomenon introduced by the seven sisters Padilha blossomed, as spas all over the United States began to offer Brazilian wax services.

By 2003, Victoria Beckham had announced that she thought Brazilian waxes should be compulsory at age 15. Eva Longoria followed suit in 2006, telling Cosmopolitan that "Every woman should try a Brazilian wax once. The sex they have afterward will make them keep coming back." Soon, states like New Jersey and North Dakota were revisiting their regulations on legal cosmetology services after outcries from women who were surprised and dismayed to find that genital waxing had never been officially legalized. Gone were the warm, velvety vaginas of yesteryear -- the smooth, Brazilian-waxed vagina was the wave of the future.

THE EMPEROR'S NEW PRIVATE PARTS

Or was it? Most women don't chat about their vulvas in everyday life, so any concepts of "normal" pubic hair have always been murky and widely varied to begin with. Alanna, who asked that we refrain from using her last name, is just part of a whole generation who feels she's been duped by a certain everybody's doing it, everybody loves it myth.

Earlier this year, the 21-year-old New Jersey native's first full Brazilian wax (and last, she vows) left her smarting in more ways than one. "A lot of girls in my sorority had been saying it was the only way to go, so I thought it was going to be this life-changing thing. This magical cure-all for all my problems down there. I was a little mistaken," she says. "I was a little misled."

In addition to paying $55 for a hair removal job that wasn't nearly as thorough as she'd hoped, her suddenly pre-pubescent private parts simply gave her the creeps. "I'm not a fan of looking like a 12-year-old," Alanna says. "I think people should have hair down there. Our ancestors grew it for a reason. For protection." (To be fair, scientists don't actually know why humans have pubic hair. Some think it's to help trap pheromones, which connects us subconsciously to people we're attracted to; others, meanwhile, think it's simply there to keep our precious cargo warm enough for successful reproduction.)

* * *

Even if Alanna had set out on a noble quest to uncover the truth about "normal" pubic hair, she may still have come up empty-handed: Actual studies on American women's pubic hair removal habits are few and far between.

What surveys have been conducted, however, tend to support what most of America already suspects: that Brazilian waxing is largely practiced among the young, white, heterosexual Sex And The City and Gossip Girl demographics.

Herbenick's studies have found that women under 30 are two to three times as likely to have no pubic hair than women over 30. And Jodi Staiman, an esthetician at the posh Asha Salon in Evanston, Illinois, confirms: The vast majority of her Brazilian wax clients are under 30, and "a good 80 to 85 percent" are in their twenties. (That's not to say, though, that older women don't ever go bare. Pinto's mother, a 56-year-old divorcée, is now a regular Brazilian wax customer, thanks to her daughter.)

Staiman, who administers between five and 10 Brazilian waxes per week (and even more in the summertime and just before Halloween), also notes that her clientele is overwhelmingly white and Asian. Over the last six months, she adds, "I think I've done about eight Brazilian waxes on African-Americans, total." While Evanston and its nearby Northwestern University have disproportionately white and Asian populations, Staiman also credits the low number of black women in her clientele to the fact that coarser hair is more painful to remove by waxing.

Full pubic hair removal, according to Herbenick's studies, is most common among sexually active women, and specifically women who report having frequent oral sex and women who are not in monogamous relationships.

[el_victorino]

But women sport a stark-naked mons veneris for many reasons, ranging from the practical to the provocative. Herbenick's explanation is a tame one: She thinks it's mainly a response to skimpy clothing trends. "Our underwear today is a lot smaller than women's underwear was 20 years ago," she says. "And if you have hair sticking out the sides of your underwear, that's just kind of, like, unkempt."

Low-slung pants, too, may be a factor: "Certainly when I think of the younger version of Britney Spears and the extremely low-cut jeans she would wear, I remember thinking, If she had pubic hair you would be able to see it," she says.

Pinto's reasoning, too, is more sensible than scandalous: She just feels cleaner down there.

"It could be attributed to visual pornographers' desire to infantilize women, or simply to make genitalia more visible to the camera.""I work out a lot. I get sweaty," she explains calmly. "And it starts to smell when you've got hair down there. So yeah, it hurts, but I just feel so much cleaner."

Pinto, who's candid about her active sex life, points out that she's never waxed at the request of a boyfriend or a partner. "I did it the first time for me," she says, "and I still do it for me." Pinto was 17 when she first waxed it all off.

Though Pinto says sex has never felt any different to her without pubic hair ("Once we get going, who cares?" she says with a laugh), there certainly remains a sexual motive for taking it all off: Drawing back the curtain of pubic hair exposes the clitoris, the labia and the vagina for plain viewing. There's a tactile element, too: As one elated young husband named Mark explained to Glamour in 2009, "The skin down there is protected -- it never really touches anything, it never sees the sun -- so it's ridiculously soft.

"You can't really tell how soft it is until a woman waxes. Oh my God, you can't believe how soft it is when you wax," 28-year-old Mark gushed. "It's extremely, extremely soft, so it feels great when you have sex."

Pinto's past boyfriends, she says, would wholeheartedly agree. "Once, I started dating someone when I hadn't waxed in a while," she says, "And then when I did, he went, Oh! This is awesome! Why didn't you do this before?!"

"That was my senior year of high school," she adds. "So every month I would text him, 'Guess who's getting a wax!' And he'd be like, 'Smiley face, so excited!'"

Many men, like Bob Fitzpatrick, a finance student at the University of Michigan, are more likely to perform oral sex on a female partner if she has no pubic hair.

"If she's seeking for you to pleasure her and you have pubic hairs in your mouth, you're not going to be pleased with that," the 21-year-old says. Fitzpatrick, a bright, chatty Lake Forest, Illinois, native who's paired off with a casual-but-exclusive significant other, says he prefers a clean-shaven or fully waxed mons pubis, and giggles as he recalls one particularly dismaying encounter. "I was like, Oh no, five o'clock shadow?! This is gonna be itchy on my face!"

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Although sex, hygiene, and clothing are all contributing factors, Fitzpatrick, Herbenick, and Pinto all agree that there's one main driving force behind America's villainization of pubic hair: pornography.

When a team of researchers from George Washington University took a closer look at Playboy's representations of women's genitalia throughout the years, they found that in issues dating from the magazine's inception in 1953 up through the 1970s and '80s, more than 95 percent of the centerfolds and naked models sported full, apparently natural pubic hair.

In the late 20th century, though, that changed. As Joseph Slade, professor of media and culture at Ohio University, puts it, the media legitimized voyeurism and turned it into a way of life; suddenly, porn viewers wanted to see everything more deeply and without the veil of hair. Thus, Playboy's love affair with the au naturel look faded: By the 1990s, more than a third of the models appeared to have removed some of their pubic hair. And in the new millennium, less than 10 percent of nude models now sport the full pubic bush, while a third remove their hair partially and one-quarter remove it completely. Playboy has trimmed down the standard from the un-modified, detail-obscuring "fur bikini" it helped popularize in the 1960s to the vanishing act it promotes today.

Hugh Hefner's magazine, however, isn't the only supporter of the tress-less treasure chest. Rather, says Slade, genital alopecia seems to have hit the entire adult entertainment industry. "Depilation took hold in visual porn in the 1990s, though some actresses trimmed for movies before then," Slade says. "It was easier to keep crotches cleaner on the set. But certainly the practice is widespread in video porn today. Enough so that backlash has created a niche fetish for 'full bushes.'"

But while the sleek, slick, bare labia majora is more common in visual porn today than ever before, the stylized hairless vulva has actually been around for centuries. According to Slade, as far back as the 15th century, women -- especially prostitutes -- often shaved their pubic hair to avoid lice infestation, which is where having a muff may have picked up its stigma of being "unclean." In the years following, medieval and classical European sculptors and painters omitted pubic hair from depictions of female nudes; In fact, the notion of pubic hair in general was so unholy that every last naked prophet on the Sistine Chapel ceiling is completely hairless below the neck. But life didn't dare imitate art -- at least, that is, not until Playboy.

Slade cites two potential reasons for porn's fixation on the bare vagina. "It could be attributed to visual pornographers' desire to infantilize women," Slade says, "or simply to make genitalia more visible to the camera. Male porn stars often shave their pubic hair for that purpose, too."

Many feminists understandably take umbrage at the first, Slade says. "Bare pubic areas are most common in videos advertised as featuring young women, because it does infantilize them or make them look pre-pubescent." It's less common, he says, in porn featuring MILFs (American Pie's now-famous acronym for "mothers I'd like to fuck"), because mature age is the appeal.

[el_victorino]

THE CULT OF THE SPHYNX

Herbenick and Fitzpatrick both believe one demographic group has embraced the hairless-cat look more fervently than others: college students.

In theory, this should come as no surprise; The average U.S. state university actually has all the right features to act as a veritable incubator for anti-pube sentiments. Where else do youth, skimpy clothing, rampantly available pornography, and non-monogamous sexual habits all converge so gloriously?

And as anyone who's ever lived in a freshman dormitory can attest, close quarters and newfound autonomy can produce an open forum for frank, peer-to-peer conversations about sex that would be less likely to arise in other adult settings. In other words, a conversation about pubic hair is more likely to come up in a frat house basement than at an office water cooler.

"If they want to take it off, they take it off. If they want to grow it back, they grow it back. But they're doing it because they want to."Sometimes, those basements can act as warm, fertile petri dishes for the spread of contagious (and mostly unfounded) negativity. "Guys sit around and they talk about sex, and they think they're supposed to say, 'Pubic hair's disgusting,' and 'I hate pubic hair,'" he says. "They don't want to be judged for their sexual preferences."

And among women, Herbenick says, pubic grooming habits and preferences tend to spread among friend groups -- which leads to "clumps," she says, of women with similar grooming regimens. "Friends talk," she says. "So especially among teenagers and college students, when everyone is trying to be the same, 'the same' is what you get."

Herbenick recalls one encounter in which a popular, well-liked college student in a class she taught openly professed that he had never hooked up with a girl who had pubic hair, and would frankly be disgusted to undress a woman and discover a veil of genital fur.

"Some girls talked to me and wrote in their papers that they had always had pubic hair, and in a couple cases never did anything to their pubic hair," she said. "They never thought it was a problem. But when he said that, they went home and changed it. They really started to feel ashamed about their bodies."

Fitzpatrick, similarly, finds himself in a collegiate scene full of young women far too obsessed with the hair down there. "It becomes a compulsion," he says.

Fitzpatrick's female friends, especially those who confess to not having waxed in a while, have added a distinct new routine to their social calendars: weekend-evening freak-outs. "When they go out on a Friday night to the bar, if they think they might be having sex with somebody later, they're like, 'Is he gonna judge me? What is he gonna think?'" Fitzpatrick says. Other non-waxed coeds simply skip the bar altogether.

Pinto, too, admits that she gets nervous about having sex toward the third or fourth week after getting a wax. "If I haven't waxed and I suddenly end up hooking up with someone, I'm like, Oh, God. No, no!" she says.

And it's true, says Fitzpatrick: Guys can be, and often are, "absolutely brutal." It's not uncommon for a college-aged man to "go out of his way" to make fun of a girl's pubic grooming habits with his buddies after he's hooked up with her -- even if he's never expressed a preference one way or the other, he says. "Then all of a sudden, instead of just being a girl who's had a fun night with her respective guy, she becomes that girl who has weird pubic hair. And nobody wants that label."

But while university campuses may be hotbeds of body-hair negativity, individual college students' attitudes seem remarkably different behind closed doors.

"I personally find myself a little more attractive when I don't have it," Pinto explains. "But one time I had a consistent hookup and he told me, 'Either way, you're attractive. You're a naked girl, and you're in my bed. Doesn't matter.'"

Fitzpatrick, too, downplays the actual make-or-break importance of a woman's pubic hairstyle. "Back in the Victorian age, it was sexy to be really pale because it meant you didn't work in the fields," he says. "Or it was sexy to be fat because it meant you could afford to eat lots of meals."

Similarly, Fitzpatrick says, the waxed or clean-shaven vulva should be seen as little more than a fad -- albeit something of a saddening one. "At first, the powers that be tell you it's sexy, and then by the time you're done, you have a bunch of women obsessively waxing themselves."

"When I first met some of my friends," he adds, "they were like, 'Oh, I only like girls with 34D's who are six feet tall,' and run down this list of high standards. And then a year or two later, once I'd gotten to know them, those same guys were like, 'Yeah, you know, I really don't mind that she wears granny panties.'"

EMPOWERING OR DEFLOWERING?

Herbenick readily admits that today, both men and women alike largely consider pubic hair dirty or unfeminine. In other words, it carries a less-than-desirable stigma among members of both sexes. "But I would put it this way: so does the rest of women's body hair," she counters. "Pubic hair was kind of the last to join." After all, she says, women remove their leg hair and underarm hair all over the Western world, and many report that they would feel ashamed or embarrassed if they didn't. "They wouldn't want people to see that on them," she says. "They say they would feel unfeminine, or that they wouldn't feel sexy."

So what does it all mean? Is pubic hair removal a symbol of feminine pride, something that Gloria Steinem might be proud of? Or does it signify submission to a domineering male agenda?

"It's all in how people deal with it," Herbenick says. As she's seen in her lecture-hall encounters, the hairless vulva isn't always analogous to the clenched fist of female solidarity; just as often, it's a telltale sign of oppression or forced conformity.

But, she says, uncovered, demystified genitalia can just as easily be a symbol of empowerment. "Many women have started to feel a sense of ownership over their bodies -- an autonomy," she says. "If they want to take it off, they take it off. If they want to grow it back, they grow it back. If they want to shave it into a heart, they shave it into a heart. But they're doing it because they want to."

And sometimes, they want to make it permanent. Women aren't just striving for ways to attain that smooth, glossy, doll-like physique -- they're looking for ways to preserve it, too. Many advocate for laser hair removal as a quick, one-size-fits-all cure for the chronic problem of body hair; Pinto, who's already permanently depilated her forearms via laser hair removal, plans to undergo the procedure on her bikini area this winter.

Laser hair removal requires commitment: It can take eight to 12 half-hour sessions to completely remove the hair, with three to eight weeks between each treatment, and maintenance sessions are often necessary in later years to keep growth at bay.

Pinto's mother, a former plastic surgeon, plans to give her daughter the $3,000 procedure as a college graduation gift.

[josehl]

^^^I guess that makes me a fetishist.

[Wood Dragon]

Where's the hot, wet, swollen, in front of my face option?

[Unshavenfan]

In my teeth super hairy :-):evilgrin:

[MadamMeow]

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You like getting your teeth flossed while you eat. That is serious multitasking right there. :evilgrin: lol

[el_victorino]

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That's what thongs are for.

[beastley]

I do.

[Bishop]

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Not a trap!

[acthung]

I'm praying that it would be a very smooth pussy inside that panty.

[TheSNakE]

I like it minus all the nagging.

[jo_dile]

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Yeah, just like we like the dick minus the asshole. ;) Hi Snakie! :D

[TheSNakE]

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how would we poop? ;)

[jo_dile]

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:D Lol.